Once locked in I have not found Dobyns rods to be lacking in power although their upper lure ratings are optimistic. Read This Before Posting! For more information, please see our $349.99 - $359.99 Dobyns Champion Extreme HP Split Grip Casting Rods Most power tactics don't work here since it's so pressured. AbrazX FC line and it works well -but you are right that for flipping jigs with heavier hooks (i.e. Delivering top-of-the-line performance like only Dobyns Rods can, no expense was spared with the . Comments:Dobyns are great rods, they have anything model you could ask for. Go put a reel on them and see what you like best In general it looks like about an hour and a half or so journey to the Appleton location and a bit less to the Oshkosh location. I needed a jig and worm rod, so I got a 744C. They will be 703sf. However the Avid balances a 3000 Stradic FK ever so slightly better as the Dobyns is just a tad tip heavy, likely due to no for grip on the rod ( I would not put a reel that weighs less than 8.5-9 ozs on the Dobyns as the balance would be way off at that point). 530-671-1989 THX A TON GUYS!!!! I would say their 3 power rod is very good at 1/4-3/8oz and good with 3/16-1/2oz. Comments:Dobyns rods are hands down the best rods I've come across. When fishing is more than just a hobby, pick up a new Dobyns Champion XP Full Grip Casting Rod. This confused me too. I just looked up an old TW order where it had a 734 Champion XP Heavy as the description. Comments: I picked up the 744C " Jig Special " and it's fantastic. Does anyone here have personal experience with some of these rods? It's for big line, big jigs and big fish. A 5 power in a crank bait rod is a Med/Hvy also but in Cranking category. I have the choice between a dobyns 703 and a dobyns 704 for texas rigs. If you feel a 1/2 ounce will become a frequent player, the 744C would be a better choice. & 1/2 oz.) 2022 Dobyns Rods Co., Inc. All rights reserved. Quote PatrickKnight Members 598 Location Southwest Ohio My PB: Between 5-6 lbs Favorite Bass: Smallmouth Favorite Lake or River Great Miami River Author Weightless Wacky Rig - Zoom Finesse Trick worms or Roboworms. larrymarketfishing I own the DC733sf and DC733c. I owned a Savvy 703SF and paired it with a Stradic 3000. Your previous content has been restored. It's an exceptional frog rod too. I have a few Sierras and I feel as if their MH is actually a Medium in other rods. croix.? Upload or insert images from URL. Your previous content has been restored. 2022 Dobyns Rods Co., Inc. All rights reserved. I really enjoy throwing lighter scroungers on it too. That was until I tried other rods. Otherwise there are two locations listed for a tackle dealer called The Reel Shot in Wisconsin. Display as a link instead, If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I own the 703sf and 735c in the Fury line and have handled the 795c regularly. But if you do not have anything more powerful than the 734c for jigs, it'll definitely feel like a big upgrade. It all depends on what you are looking to do with the rod. For a point of reference, you can fish a 5" senko with a 1/8oz weight on both rods, but the 4 power works best with 1/4oz and on the 3 power you can fish it weightless almost as comfortably. Not sure about the 1/4 oz, but it should throw 3/8 pretty good with a trailer. with braid main line . It definitely has a small amount more flex than what I would consider a fast action but I believe that keeps fish pegged on the hook better for me personally. Like my other Dobyns rods a lot. Thanks, everyone! Fury rods are more economical, and you still get a great feel, plenty of power and a great rod! Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below. I have a 715C that I have a jig tied onto. I had a customer yesterday call in and his buddy had told him all "Dobyns Rods are the same blanks with different cosmetics throughout the series". It has it's own signature feel compared to my 735C. What a difference in weight. I prefer ML to M because it's a bit more fun to fight the small fish in this little pond and it's also easier to throw some of the weightless plastics. I feel the dobyns 3 is closer to a medium than a MH in the fury line. The balance point was just ahead of the blank just ahead of the threaded part of the handle. It's an excellent rod for moving baits! If you're looking for sensitivity for something like a bottom contact rod, I'd recommend the Sierra or Champ, whichever you can afford. It is also great looking. I feel that the sierra series are better moving bait rods as the action is more of a moderate fast and has less backbone than the Fury line. You cannot paste images directly. My budget is about $300 for the combo if I buy a new reel. The price on the Sierra is about the same as a Savvy so it makes no sense to have both. Very happy with the rod. I love it for swim jigs and chatter baits as well. So instead of getting the champion for 108$, I would have to pay 175$. Dobyns Rods Sierra Trout & Panfish Series Spinning Rods Ultralight Rods. These rods are freakin good in all aspects, not amazing, not the best but good everywhere. My local tackle shop stocks a lot of their rods. Your link has been automatically embedded. TFF Team Angler. Gear & Gadgets on the Texas Fishing and Outdoors Show, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.3, Moritz Chevrolet - 9101 Camp Bowie W Blvd, Fort Worth, TX - Monte Coon (817) 696-2003. I only have Champions in rods I can't get in the Sierra series. thanks Quote masterbass Members 895 1 Location pittsburgh My PB: Between 7-8 lbs Favorite Bass: All three Favorite Lake or River Erie Posted June 15, 2014 Gary Dobyns just seems to know how to design rods with precise actions for what fishermen need. February 18, 2017 in Fishing Rods, Reels, Line, and Knots. I would not use for frog rod or jig rod. They were a 6'8" M/H & a heavy. Champ series is more in line with other rods I've fished. Like I said the next rod I am going to get is going to be a SA 693SF. Arrived in great condition from Tackle Warehouse. The Fury line was another answer to a LOUD roar from dealers and customers for a rod below the highly competitive $150 mark. My champion 702sf also feels more sensitive than the Fury. I use the shorter Sierra's when I am fishing in the Cypress tree's & the longer Champion in the grass & on the flats fishing Senko's. The balance and feel in your hand is similar, however the Sierra is much more sensitive than the Fury. The reason I chose them over a couple of other brands that had full cork handles was the up graded cork handles. I bought to skip under docks but I tried fishing other methods. Angler. The Dobyns is going to run you around $170 for the Sierras and $230 to $250 for the Champion XPs. But the Dobyns 734 is well touted. If you're tossing 1oz lures - go with a 4-power Dobyns. They were a little long for him so he did not like them. So I own both champions (744c jig special, 763s) and sierra's (2x 733) in different applications. Gary Dobyns has perfected the bass rod! Dobyns Champion XP Spinning Rods. Balance of the rod and reel is very important to me as tip heavy rods is a burden after a few hours of fishing. Also, always feel free to call our shop and it's easier to explain by phone. Dobyns Champion Extreme HP Full Handle Casting Rods The new, top-of-the-line Dobyns Champion Extreme HP Full Handle Casting Rods feature key upgrades and enhancements for technique-specific performance you have to feel to believe. A Sierra 734C. OP. Home / Rods / The Dobyns CHAMPION XP Series / Champion XP Frogs, Pitch & Flip / DC 735C SH DC 735C SH $ 269.99 Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 10 customer ratings ( 10 customer reviews) Add to cart More Information Reviews (10) WARNING - CA PROP 65 I have both Sierra and Champion rods. Personally I really like the Sierra series. I do use the 705 sometimes but it is not my go to frog rod thats for sure. Call each store and see what each one has in stock. What would you guys say are the best benefits to a dobyn vs st. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Dobyns Rods Champion XP Series Spinning Rods 1-Piece Tournament Bass Fishing Rod. Re: Dobyns vs St-Croix and the winner is.. by 78Staff Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:09 pm. Half ounce and 3/4 oz jigs can be fished close and far. So for $170 are these solid or should I look else where? Rod was helpful in making precise pitches. They're not as sensitive as some other rods in my arsenal but for what I use them for they work well. Posts: 473. March 10, 2020 in Fishing Rods, Reels, Line, and Knots. Upload or insert images from URL. I was just going to PM you about how you like the Helios. This year I started throwing 10" worms, 3/8 + 1/2 chatter baits, 2.5 square bills, 3/4 Red Eye Shads, and 1/2 double colorado spinnerbaits. Man I love that these are slightly slower rods! Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Your link has been automatically embedded. . I'll be using Braid to Leader and I will be tying an Alberto knot for the connection. This is a great forum for sure with super people. I like my rods on the slower side of fast so that is welcoming. I am not brand loyal at all but i started with one Dobyns, now i have 14. I have a neat way to get questions answered directly from Gary Dobyns himself. The Sierra series is slightly slower than the Champion and Fury but sensitivity is very very good. You can always add more later. Nor may it be copied, published, rewritten, or redistributed. I see it rating starts right at 1/4oz,I mostly throw 1/4 and 3/8 finesse, pitching and swimjigs. If it was me Id go for a champion xp over the Sierra for frogging. The Kaden Series was actually "fish tested" for several months by Dobyns customers. Typical Finesse Tactics (1/10oz - 1/4 oz), Weightless Texas Rig - Zoom Finesse Trick Worms or Swampcrawlers, Weightless Wacky Rig - Zoom Finesse Trick worms or Roboworms, Dobyns Sierra 683CF Casting Rod with Daiwa Tatula 100 w/ 30 lb braid 8 or 10 lb leader - Used for 1/8oz weighted Texas Rigs or Finesse Jigs, Dobyns Sierra 683CF Casting Rod with Pflueger President XT Baitcaster w/ 20 lb braid 8 lb leader- Weightless Texas Rigs(Flukes and worms), Daiwa AIRD-X 6'6" ML F Spinning Rod with Daiwa BG 2500 w/ 20 lb braid 6 lb leader- Current Finesse Setup, Daiwa Presso 6' UL F Spinning Rod with Pflueger President 20 w/ 4 lb mono - Panfish Setup, H2O XPress 7' Medium Spinning Rod with Okuma Epixor XT 30 w/ 8 lb Hybrid - Buddy Setup if I take anyone else fishing. DC 703C - Dobyns Rods When Fishing is More Than Just a Hobby! This is critical. One note of caution: if you are using this for frogging, it doesn't load so well on your lighter frogs. Using a braid it has enough backbone to set the 5/0 hook, but has enough tip to launch a Keitech. In my opinion this is the rod you are looking for. They are a tad bit slower as Sierras but not CB's. My experience is with the Champion 704CB and 684CB. New to this forum but have been fishing dobyns rods for 2 years now and love them. Otherwise, it'd be a $200 budget for the rod. In my opinion the jump to the Sierra is bigger than the St Croix rods. Comments: I recently purchased the 736. Bass Rutten I have no clue what the actual material make up percentages of the blank are. In your hand it will feel super light thanks to good blanks, no over powering fancy finishes that deaden the rod and good quality components. I use 683 for jerkbaits, flukes, senkos, shakyhead, small traps, etc. Evgen if you did you will not be disappointed. Dobyns started off with the Champion Series ($229 and up) and Champion Extreme ($339 and up) and those are the rods that built their great reputation. He has said he will leave the Savvy Micro rods alone because the customers that want it are still buying it. I know that a Champion is more sensitive than the sierra give all things exact. I would call to see if they have any Dobyns in stock. By if you need 2 set ups, go with the Sierra, and if you can get away with one go Champ. These rods are extremely balanced, which makes them feel lighter than they actually are. Sometime larger top water baits are thrown on it like Super Spooks and other moving baits like Keitechs. Can't help much with the original question, but I use a Sierra 704c for 1/4-3/8 jigs. This is not my best explanation and maybe one of you guys can explain it better. If I could only choose one it would be the Sierra. The balance was about perfect. Avid's are sure nice though. How these "experts" know this boggles my mind. By Also, the guides were straight, which is something I always check for and have had issues with from other makers. Either way I'd go with a 4 power. Never fished a similar Champion to compare, although I'd imagine the Champion would be more sensitive. I have to go to the fishing flea market next week and unload some stuff to afford some new stuff LOL. I do own several Champions however and they are awesome!! I am a huge fan of the original line of Avid rods (don't care for the X due to not liking micro guides) and having owned an Avid for a while (7 foot medium power fast action) I will say the Dobyns is slightly more sensitive in my hands. Comments: The 744 has become my favorite rod in the boat during 2021. I originally bought it for only jigs. But they aren't budget rods. of your choice . You cannot paste images directly. Nor may it be copied, published, rewritten, or redistributed. Looking to pick up themuch heralded Dobyns 734C to use primarily as a jig rod, for anyone whos ownedboth series how big of a difference is there in sensitivity between the Sierra and the championseries and did you feel the champion wasworth the additional $80? $170.28 to $180.28. I think I've made the right choice here! They then added the Sierra ($159 and up) and then added the Fury ($109 and up) to fill in some gaps and expand their audience. You can post now and register later. I think Jody's number scale is pretty accurate, but its not what resellers like Tackle Warehouse display. Pasted as rich text. Fish them side by side and it's not hard discern that. I keep . By swapping bait cast reels between FC , braid or even mono main lines can add versatility to the Sierra 734c. Balance is great. Both rods compliment each other very nicely. This is critical. The Fury MH fishes like a M to me. The Dobyns Fury In-Depth Comparison TheTackleRat 698 subscribers Subscribe 6.6K views 2 years ago This is an in-depth comparison between the Doybns Fury and the Dobyns. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. If you are just looking for an all around utility rod then try the 734 in any series except the Extremes those start with a 743. I use the champion Xtreme series but my buddy has a couple fury's and I've used those as well and I think the Xtreme series is equally comparable to a gloomis. New to the forum, very sorry if this has been answered already but I can't seem to find a solid answer anywhere. The Sierra Series are built on the spine, are balanced and offer an exceptional quality at an affordable price! Looks like my lineup is now mostly Dobyns. I really like my Sierra rods, but I'm looking for a good TX rig rod. I am currently trying to unload a couple folding knives to fund new rods. Overall very pleased with the rod so far. . Dobyns, Daiwa, LSCR, Nutech, Keitech, Yamamoto. These rods are not as sensitive as G. Loomis. If you have been following for awhile, you know Gary Dobyns tries to frequent this group with answers and information. It doesn't matter whether you get the savvy, champion, champ XP, or the extreme. Here is what I would do. I've got a Fury 734c, 702sf, 704c, Champion 702sf, 683sf and Sierra 703c, 734c. Dobyns Champion Extreme HP Split Grip Casting Rods. What is are the general thoughts on this series? There website says they have the Champion Xps and several Savvy's in stock. Your previous content has been restored. Privacy Statement. The 735 is great for heavier wire jigs like the different no jacks from dirty jigs, although it isnt too stout of a rod to throw standard wire jigs. Clear editor. for light wire Football Jigs (3/8th oz. That being on the softer less rigid side (in my opinion). But do both have to be the same exact 702sf? SA 766FLIP - Dobyns Rods When Fishing is More Than Just a Hobby! I guess you are gonna have to learn to deal with your gorilla hook sets. Really this is a good utility rod, although I still think the Sierra is more versatile due to its more moderate action. The difference between each of these 5 powers is a LOT!! They are listed as a Dobyns dealer but may not stock what you want. You can post now and register later. For all of you Dobyns haters.. #13671849 08/18/20 04:36 AM: Joined: Feb 2017. Delivering top-of-the-line performance like only Dobyns Rods can, no expense was spared with the new Dobyns Champion Extreme HP Spinning Rods. I'll be primarilythrowing smaller topwaters like 1/2oz walking baits, 75 and 90 ploppers, 3/8oz-1/2oz jigs, and 3/8oz spinnerbaits. I'm trying to decide between the Dobyns Champion XP 683 or 684 as my kind of all-around casting rod. I don't have a lot of rod experiences but I am really liking this rod. I have a Sierra SA 703Cand a Fury FR 705CB,I've been happy with both of them. With braid itsa great frog rod, can punch with it too. I recently got a champion mh glass for my casting reel. This material may not be posted on another website. I'm a rod junkie. Very difficult to duplicate the exact action of a single model across all series because of the differences in material used between the different series. First impression was that this rod was light, incredibly well-balanced, and very stout. Dobyns did a super job in the upgrade of the Savvy's. Both these rods are super versatile, the 735 is one of the best frog rods you can get for the money. Obviously as you go up the rods change, (weight, balance, etc) but specifically power and action is what i am talking about. Either will work for what you ask about. I can say with full confidence that Sierra and Champions being only cosmetically different is false. All Rights Reserved. It comes down to what you like. The new standard for sensitivity, strength, weight and balance - the new Dobyns Champion XP Full Grip Casting Rods feature the same winning blanks as the original Champion Series and now come equipped with premium Fuji guides. Paired with a SMOKE S3, 20 lb braid, and 12 lb Berkley Pro leader, the rod telegraphs every vibration and tap. Thank you for the responses, since this post I have acquired a megabass perfect pitch for jig fishing. The Champion XP line up is about as high end as I'll go. There is a tackle shop inOconomowoc, WI called Get Hooked Outdoors. SPONSORED. The 744C is a very versatile rod, despite having an extra fast tip, I have used it for swim jigs, chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, swim baits on 3/8oz jig heads, Carolina-rigs, and Tokyo rigs. When I tried to order the champion from dobyns, they told me that the discount does not apply to reconditioned/trade ins and you have to pay a shipping price of 25$ per rod, instead of getting their standard free shipping over 75$. 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